Stop trying to impress people - it’s corny.
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@makeitperfectshow ep 73
@gamesweplay on YT now link in bio.
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Timestamps
00:00 – “I’m nervous.” | Starting the painting
02:10 – Fear of making bad art
04:28 – Providing for a family as an artist
07:12 – Recording at Foo Fighters’ Studio 606
09:30 – The pressure of making a personal album
13:02 – Writing authentic music vs chasing hits
16:48 – Zach Bryan, storytelling, and honesty in songwriting
20:14 – Wanting people to sing your songs back to you
23:37 – Fatherhood, painting, and losing yourself in creativity
27:55 – Minecraft, failure, and the creative process
31:42 – YouTube views, validation, and why Make It Perfect exists
35:20 – Julien Baker, Boygenius, and vulnerable songwriting
40:11 – Writing a song about his mom
45:05 – Parenting, mistakes, and keeping communication open
49:48 – Turnstile, hardcore, and the dream of playing bigger shows
54:32 – Discovering what Games We Play is actually supposed to be
58:40 – Authenticity vs trying to impress people in LA
1:03:25 – The Artist’s Way, burnout, and creative blocks
1:07:44 – Feeling 15 years old while becoming an adult
1:12:18 – Starbucks, self-image, and body dysmorphia
1:17:03 – Why vulnerability matters in art
1:21:56 – Therapy, childhood instability, and emotional endurance
1:27:30 – Tough love, sensitivity, and becoming a father
1:33:48 – Learning to stand up for yourself
1:38:20 – Contradictions, identity, and what Make It Perfect is really about
1:43:15 – Dave Portnoy, Taylor Swift, and authenticity
1:46:57 – Forgiveness, discipline, and self-worth
1:51:12 – Painting reveals personality
1:54:40 – Julien Baker and painting her album artwork
1:59:08 – A message to Los Angeles
2:01:05 – Final paintings reveal + reflections
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